Re:Using Newton 1MB card on Zoom

ChrisD16@aol.com
XXX, 26 Dec 1994 22:39:46 -0400 (EDT)

Hi,
All you need to do is get a new battery for the Newton 1mb sram card.

Chris De Herrera

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With the recent price drop of the Zoomer from Radio Shack I think it's safe to say the Zoomer is dead. Look for it at a "Where is as is" sale by the 3 rd quarter of the year. It's a shame. I guess we could call it a marketing failure ... too expensive for a calculator not powerful enough for the computer techies. I would like to have seen what would have happened if Grafitti had been available at the Zoomer introduction. I believe Newton would have died quickly and Zoomer would still be a viable product. The Zoomer was initially marketed as a communication tool. Right no direct fax capabilities.. PCMCIA slot incompatible with ALL but one fax modem. No communications program except AOL built in.
Don't get me wrong I love my Zoomer, I use it everyday.. I use Form Factor for customer sign off. The scheduler.. the note taker.. Grafitti has made the Zoomer more than a "Gee Whiz" product.
I am just annoyed at the apparent decision not to fulfill the capabilities initially promised for the Zoomer.
I reckon HP will be the one to finally do the PDA thing right... the Magic Cap thing holds no allure for me.. Just another effort to market a service not a product.
One suggestion whoever makes the next attempt put Grafitti in hardware. Not the OS ... That way DOS or the OS would look at it as a keyboard leaving the door open for PcAnywhere or similar product to be offered. Hey that's an idea.. let me control MY systems not pay for a service!
David Haviland

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As we speak there are products being developed to make the Zoomer a better tool in the the workplace and in our personal lives. FAX is just around the corner (literally) and interest throughout the industry has taken off since the introduction of Graffiti. Geoworks has become the OS of choice for this type tool. Whether it's too late remains to be seen. It may be that the Zoomer was a sleeper that is coming into its own. The decision by Radio Shack to lower the price doesn't dismiss its usefullness. The Sharp Wizard is in a similar situation. Over-priced initially, as all new technlogies are, it too has garnered new interest and sales are up. Sharp too lowered their price to be more accessible and competitive.

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I would love to be wrong. At the current time it doesn't look like it. It might be that R/S lowered the price to sell more but usually this means a product is fast on the way to discontinuation. Obviously if they were selling well at this time or there was a foreseen large demand they would not have lowered the price. By the way in the Atlanta area which has a Radio Shack every 1/2 mile and two to a corner most do not have the Zoomer on display now. This could be post Christmas season depletion but even before Thanksgiving they were getting scarce.
Another possibility is that they are getting ready to release the Zoomer 2. Aside from putting Grafitti on a chip I would suggest that they make the Fax/Modem integral. Two reasons. #1 having a fax/card in a one slot device means you have to give up your mass storage to fax. Sort of like making a choice between your hard drive and any other I/O on your desktop. #2. Knowing that Fax/Modem capabilities were a given and not an option would spur all kinds of 3rd party software creation.
String

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I would love to be wrong. At the current time it doesn't look like it. It might be that R/S lowered the price to sell more but usually this means a product is fast on the way to discontinuation. Obviously if they were selling well at this time or there was a foreseen large demand they would not have lowered the price. By the way in the Atlanta area which has a Radio Shack every 1/2 mile and two to a corner most do not have the Zoomer on display now. This could be post Christmas season depletion but even before Thanksgiving they were getting scarce.
Another possibility is that they are getting ready to release the Zoomer 2. Aside from putting Grafitti on a chip I would suggest that they make the Fax/Modem integral. Two reasons. #1 having a fax/card in a one slot device means you have to give up your mass storage to fax. Sort of like making a choice between your hard drive and any other I/O on your desktop. #2. Knowing that Fax/Modem capabilities were a given and not an option would spur all kinds of 3rd party software creation.
String

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Even if there was a Zoomer2 on the way, I'd be happy. Radio Shack is not reknowned for its business acumen in the hardware field. Office Depot tells me they continue to sell a steady # of Casio Zoomers and accessories and currently charge $399 for them (down from $499 recently). Beta testing on a PCMCIA P.I.M. is about to begin and will be much faster and comprehensive (from what I'm told) than the current Palm apps. It will INCLUDE FAX CAPABILITIES through the RS port.

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I was at RS today & talking to a salesman. He told me it looked like the Z was being fazed out....and that's the way the computer hardware market works.

Irregardless, it would appear the (current) Z doesn't carry much interest. There are no Ap.s out there (just look at the Newton bases....Gezzz). Since I bought my Z (when it first appeared in the stores) I have heard this and that was in the process of development, but nothing has surfaced. I just read that a fax utility is just around the corner. Hmmmm. That and a spreadsheet would fill my needs just fine, but I don't hold my breath any more.

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I don't claim to have priority knowledge, the Zoomer MAY be on the way out- but never take the word of a Radio Shack Dude. They are terribly ignorant about the industry and their own product lines. To test that theory just call any store and ask for the price of a pocket modem. They'll take twenty minutes to look it up, another five to price it, and then they don't know how long it would take to get it in. They especially astound me when they claim the Tandy Zoomer is DIFFERENT from the Casio and AST zoomers. They will also tell you that the PCMCIA cards for HP palmtops don't work in Zoomers. (If they know what a PCMCIA card is) If a second generation Zoomer was on the way, they would know it when they got one in and not before. I bought my Zoomer at one of the shops near my office and then, and every time since, I've had to walk them through every thing I needed. They welcome the help but they are supposed to help ME! If not for the 'net and AOL, I would believe that the configurat
ion of the zoomer was unchangeable. Oh yeah, they've never heard of Geoworks Ensemble. I can go on, and on...

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I have a feeling that AST started it by following Apple's lead.
- The price of MessagePad 100's is $199 (way down from their original pricing).
- AST felt that market penatration (as well as stock relief) was needed, and the only way to do that was to go below Apple's pricing.
- Casio and Radio Shack have followed, but not with as agressive a pricing scheme.

What's next? Gulliver.... HP's new PDA stated in PC Weeks rumor mill...

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Remember that the consistent feedback from the day the Z-PDA was launched was that it was overpriced. To start claiming that it is dead because they have lowered the price seems a bit ironic.

"It's too expensive! Lower the price!"
"Oh God! They've lowered the price! It must be being discontinued!"

One of the main reasons that you see so many more Newton apps than Z-PDA apps is that the Z-PDA does much more than the Newton right out of the box. Combine that with the difficulty of the development tools, and the marketing blindness that Casio has (they prefer to see it as an enhanced B.O.S.S., not as a plamtop computer), and you can easily see why we have the situation we have today.

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Hi,
Since the Zoomer runs Geos apps, there is a bright future for it. New apps are being created all the time and are added to the library here. The Zoomer is at least a year away from being orphaned. The follow-on product will probably be show at Comdex 95, Las Vegas in November so there's still time to use it and enjoy it's uniqueness. Casio has indicated that new drivers for PCMCIA modems should be available this quarter.

As for the availability of a second generation Zoomer, it is rumored to be in development as we speak. When I have any details, I will provide them here.

Chris De Herrera
"Zippity do da, Z-PDA, my oh my it's a wonderful day!"
Copyright 1995, All Rights Reserved

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I've read with great interest all the discourse about the Zoomer. As a new owner of one(yes the lower R.S. price got me), I am really excited about the potential uses for me. I now have the task of sitting down and entering all of my data.! Before I do, I have a few questions that I would like to answer that I have yet to see answered.

In reading the manual I don't see any search facility or look
up for the adress book. I am in sales and I list customers by name, company name title ect.. Is there a way to configure the Z so that I can do a file search by ..say company..? Do I need a special utility to do this?

I have ACT! on my home computer and the brochure from R.S. says that Intilink can connect my Zoomer to it. How well does it work? What fields does it modify? Does anyone know if Symantec plans to produce an emulation software for the Zoomer to duplicate ACT! (I hear they are about to release it for the Newton)

One problem that I've noticed the kind bugs me is the reflectivity of the display! Unless you hold Z at just the right angle it's hard to read. Is there any thing that I can do about that? An overlay or maybe
a solvent?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Mike

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Can someone help me out here...
Lets say I schedule a meeting with C. Brown for July 25. By next week I
have forgotten the date I scheduled our meeting. Can the zoomer search my calendar for his name so I don't have to page thru every month looking for the appointment? thanks, thanks.

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Hi,
In the Address Book, Options Menu there is a text search. This searches all the fields for the selected text and displays the results.

Chris De Herrera

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Hi,
The Calendar data can be searched by using Options - Text Search.

Chris De Herrera

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Chris..Thanks for the help. I tried it and works great! How about my other questions? Any Ideas??
Mike

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Hi,
As for the screen reflections and the contrast, there not much you can do to change/fix this. I just adjust the angle and work with it the best I can. Remember, there is a touch screen between the LCD and the cover, so it's thicker than a normal LCD.

As for Intellilink, I've heard that it will import text from/to many applications, however, I have not worked with it.

Chris De Herrera

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I'm new to all this and so I guess this is the place to start.
I'm looking for information on the Z-PDA or Z-7000 and what kind of software is avalibale for both the PC and the Z to share the same data in a database format. The data base software on the PC has to have the ability to merge data that it would recieve from the Z on a daily of maybe weekly basis. The Z would have to have a form that is filled out for this database. The form on the Z doesn't have to be pretty or any thing, just be the front door for receiving the data.

On another topic, do I need to consider adding a RAM card to run any software other then the software that is built-in. Your frendly R/S store said I would have to have one to add any programs that aren't in the Z already.

Can any one tell me what the software that R/S sells for the Z-PDA can do. Their doesn't seem to be any decription of what it can do, other then get the file into the PC.

I'm not intrested in all the other things that the Z does. But I'd buy one if I know how well the Z would do for data collection on a manufacturing shop floor where I'm a supervisor. I need to collect data as each job (about 200) reach a milestone and is moved to another stage of work. Then I can track it and make notes on how something was done and who did it.

Any information that would help would be great.
thanks in advance.

Ken Kloet

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<<< I'm looking for information on the Z-PDA or Z-7000 and what kind of software is avalibale for both the PC and the Z to share the same data in a database format. The data base software on the PC has to have the ability to merge data that it would recieve from the Z on a daily of maybe weekly basis. The Z would have to have a form that is filled out for this database. The form on the Z doesn't have to be pretty or any thing, just be the front door for receiving the data. >>>

Your needs sound perfect for the software called Form Factor. Form Factor let's you design a form on the PC for gathering data. You can create fields of several types, including ink, number, string, boolean, exclusive multiple choice, non-exclusive multiple choice, and so forth. You can design the form using a graphic drag/drop interface in Windows, or you can design it by creating a simple text file which describes the form and its layout.

Form Factor then sends the form to the Zoomer over a null modem cable. On the Zoomer, you can enter data into multiple instances of the form (records). When you've gathered your data, you use Form Factor to upload it back to the PC, where Form Factor will then export your data to a comma delimited ascii file, which can be imported by most any database manager or spreadsheet software.

Form Factor was authored by Meta Pacific in San Diego and is marketed by Geoworks. Call 800-824-4558 to order. Price is, I believe, $99.

BTW, you don't need a PC Card to use Form Factor, and you can gather a surprising amount of data in the RAM drive on the Zoomer. However, a PC Card sure does make the unit more useful if you plan to run add-on applications or save large data files.

Steve

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Hi,
Check out the PDA libraries and search for ZM (Zoomer). There is a Zoomer FAQ there as well. This should help answer any questions you have. Don't forget to search the Tips area as well, there are alot of good Zoomer tips there!

Chris De Herrera